This is episode two of In The Cypher Bboy Podcast and on this episode we dive deep with the our featured guests into musicality, what musicality means to him, connecting with the music, and he also shares with us a way where we can develop musicality in our own dance; crazy. We go over a wide variety of topics so this is one you’ll have to listen to more than once, I guarantee it! Alright let’s get straight into, it roll the intro.
Welcome to the In The Cypher Bboy podcast where on every episode, we interview a b-boy or b-girl and they share their experience in this dance to help you become a better dancer. Now in this episode we’re chatting with our featured guest Anthony De Niro but you probably know him as YNOT.
Now YNOT explores the design, sustainability, history, and community of hip-hop. Through a futurist lens YNOT’s work manifests in architecture, typography, dance, design, and music. Senior vice-president of the legendary Rock Steady Crew, YNOT’s reputation in the dance world precedes him. As a b-boy he works internationally at judging battles and teaching workshops. In YNOT’s vision of sustainability of hip-hop teaching and mentorship are paramount. Currently his classes can be found on a workshop basis internationally as well as online or in person through Arizona State University. Alongside his dancing and teaching YNOT creates two and three-dimensional visual works that construct the future of the hip-hop aesthetic. His most recent work is a wooden chair fashioned to resemble a graffiti letter ‘S’. All right, now let’s chat with our featured guest YNOT.
Yo Tony you ready to get into it? I’m ready man what’s going on? Chillin man, how about you? I’m good I’m hanging out got my coffee I’m ready to talk. Okay, that makes two of us man.
Let’s start by telling us about your personal life and what what you’re doing outside of breakin currently.
Currently I have a couple of things that I’ve been that I’ve invested in action in these past few years and one of them is education and the other is music and visual art. I kind of pieced them together because I I think about them simultaneously and I want to kind of merge the two especially in theater. I want to think about how I want to perform visual art along with music. And education-wise I’m kind of going on this… I took my master’s degree about two years ago and I’m really interested in teaching at a university. If that’s something that’s not possible or maybe not a good idea for me, I’ve been kind of like struggling with that concept, then I’m thinking about really looking forward to starting my own school or some type of private organization where we talk about the arts through through hip-hop pretty much but we’re like speaking about visual music and dance and try to think of some sort of kind of Bauhaus concept of mixing all these ideas into one and give someone a real educational experience. So that’s that’s what’s on the table right now. Dang that’s so crazy where are you at with that, is it just a concept right now? Um no it’s pretty deep man, I’ve been writing curriculum ever since I was in school so I have a lot of this stuff laid out and on paper. Definitely solid in my mind but, I realized that for other people to see it I have to get it into some sort of format or structure so I’ve been doing that now these past like few months, just really trying to get things recorded through videotape, me just speaking about it, and also just putting it in some type of structure on paper. And I’ve been applying through a ton of universities man so if one of them picks up picks me up then I’ll be kind of like starting my program there or at least starting to get my feet wet in terms of like dealing with people and on that type of level where it be semester based, you know project-based work.
Dang sweet and I know you you have a lot of experience doing lectures in the past through a universities, what kind of what kind of things do you keep doing those lectures?
It’s a mix of stuff because it’s it’s kind of hard man. Like people or universities most you know know that I do of just a lot of stuff with dance so I get asked to do lectures about dance and talk about dance and some of them are based on other things like I’ll talk about music, I’ll talk about visual arts sometimes, I like to talk about all of it. It all kind of works together for me so I don’t mind kind of like going into one specific topic; I think that’s cool you know. But I’m trying to show the other elements if you will and and how they’re relative to what dance is for me so I’m hoping to do a little bit more with that. But yeah I’ve done a bunch man I’ve been going all over the place talking about you know certain things in terms of also therapy man music therapy you know dance therapy how this stuff can kind of work with your mental as well as your physical so it’s all across the board man there’s a lot of ways we can go and speak about these things.
Beauty man. speaking of dance, why don’t you tell us a little more how you got started started breaking.
I always try to think about like what what can I pin point I was like the beginning like what’s the nucleus of all this stuff and I have to dedicate that to my mom you know because she’s a woman that just always had music on in the house and she would dance very often. She’s more of like a Lindy Hop hustle type disco Queen you know that was her era so she’s very much into that style of music and dance and that was like the first thing for me and when I started to see something relative to that which is honestly was like top rock was some of the early things that I saw and house dance were we’re similar I was like oh I started seeing that hustle step in that potty beret in that back step and I said “man what is that?”. But I was like I really loved this music too at the same time so it was like it was a marriage of the music and the dance front of me that got me excited because before dance I was into playing music, I was into jazz and the dance and the music aspect of I guess hip-hop or you can say funk or old 70’s style music is what really pulled me in. I started seeing it more I had to ask some questions like where do you find this stuff I mean you know when I started it was early to mid 90s and we’re you know slightly underground I guess you could say at that point and it was hard to find it, you had to like really seek it out. I was in North Jersey at this time and Passaic New Jersey so I had to like really think about you know if I can’t find it in my city where it where do I get this at you know. So I asked a ton of questions and everyone pulling me to the Bronx man I eventually went to the Bronx and and you know sure enough there’s there’s Crazy Legs and he’s teaching at the Hunts Point Community Center and it was just like kind of crazy man. But to make a long story short through through certain friends that I met, you know I’m gonna say in the scene because I kind of met people through you know music, martial art, dance, and all this stuff, and I started meeting people and they all can gave me a lead or a piece of information and then I sought it out for myself or those people brought me to where I needed to go and I found it. And since then I’ve fell in love with it and I continue to learn about this culture and I think it’s amazing.
Love it man. Why don’t you tell us a little bit more about those early influences and why they had such a big impact on you?
Honestly I don’t know why man it was just exciting you know? I was young so you know, at the age of 13/14 you see things and just whatever gets you bright-eyed I guess you start gravitating towards, you know? It was the energy in the dance that I really related to I was like man this is this is crazy like there’s something about it that I just really got into, gravitated towards, and that’s that’s just where I went. You know it’s it it starts to take different shape as you get older but I would definitely say that that’s the initial part of it it’s just exciting which is why you know when people you know want to really bring forward the the dance and cultural aspect of it sometimes it’s it’s like a dynamic, you know? Which is why the moves, the dance, all of it is so relevant to like getting people involved because you never know what’s really gonna snag this kid, you know, what is he gonna relate to his or she gonna relate to? Is she gonna to relate to this you know move or flip that happens or are they gonna relate to the way that someone just reacted to the music or they gonna relate to some type of character. You know, it could be anything and I kind of felt just all of it, you know. I dug all of it there was aspects of it that I just thought was so different to what I was seeing in my everyday life and that was it man, I got pulled in. And the music too man, I always relate things to music because I really think that that’s the main thing for me is that I mean it the dance is one thing but it’s reactions and the feelings of the people when the music is playing which does it. I mean, it doesn’t even have to be dance at that point could be just a gesture which i think is very dance related you know. But it’s just like oh like people’s faces used to turn “like oh man this beat is” you know it’s like things like that got me so involved you know. And then the rest is research man because you know I’m a 90s kid. I’m not from the 70s or the 80s, I was born in 81. You know this is stuff you have to seek out, if you don’t know about it you have to search about it you know you got to find it, you got to meet people. That’s that’s the great part about it, it becomes this big social circle that you become a part of. And it feels like a Fight Club in a way man because there’s not you know it’s not out there in public so much at least at that time it wasn’t maybe a little bit more now.
I love that you start talking about music and the energy; it really shows in the way you dance. You blew me away and continued to blow me away, and the way you talk about music now, what is musicality to you?
It’s a feeling it’s a frequency you know, and it’s a time, it’s a timing thing, it’s rhythm, it’s all of those things. But I think most importantly it’s this feeling, it’s a sort of mood, it’s something that… for example, there’s a tone in a lot of different sounds of music. When you hear a bass tone and it’s low and it gives you a certain feeling, or you hear the crash of a cymbal or you know some type of high-pitched synth coming in, it’s like you have to… you get this feeling from it and then you know when you dance then you have to react to it and you react based off of how you’re feeling. I feel like that’s ultimately what musicality is so when I see people dance and I’m getting all these different colors and moods and tones and feelings and then like it changes and if I don’t see them change, I’m kind of like “Man that did not feel that?” “Is this something they can’t hear?” I don’t know what it is but, you know, it takes you on this ride and and I think I got a lot of that just from playing music man from just being a musician myself I’ve been able to, you know, really lock in and I think that’s really where it comes for me in the dance. Gotcha, and do you ever have a hard time connecting to to some music? I went through a couple phases I think where it kind of went in and out there becomes this thing where you like maybe you get a little bit picky you know it’s like, “oh I like this style of music, I don’t like that style of music” whatever, but I think as my experience has been growing, I’m more and more open. So I find things inside something that someone might call bad you know but I’m like you know what there’s something in here that I dig, you know, starting to really see the greatness in all types of things, so inside those sounds I can find myself man. And and you know either whether it sounds good or sounds bad it still gives you a feeling and you can react to it you know, so I try to just tap into what that is.
Totally. And one thing that I know some people struggle with including myself is that ‘feeling’. Is that something that you can train?
I know you talked about playing music and that helped you develop a connection to the music, but how would you say like people can can train that and develop that kind of ‘feeling’? I think playing music is one way, it’s definitely one way because when you have a physical attachment to an instrument or something you start to understand that a little bit more. With dance it’s a little bit of an outside experience because the music is being played for you and then you’re just reacting to that. When you’re an instrumentalist you’re playing, but you’re physically interacting with this object that’s making a sound so there’s a whole other thing there that you’re getting. And I think that’s one aspect that dancers should try, even if they’re it’s not something that they think that they can excel in or even want to do, it just gives you another layer of knowledge that you can use as a dancer so I always you know trying to tell dancers to pick up an instrument, even if it’s a cowbell or something, whatever you know. Anything to just add some type of understanding of that interaction, then it’s important. That’s probably the biggest thing man, the rest of it is just like really learning the technique of the dance that you have and then just applying it into the music you know. That would be the other thing because that would then be the the next step because you have to speak the language of the dance that you’re doing so whether you’re a popper, a locker, b-boy, b-girl you have to know that there’s a foundation of that movement and the more of that that you know, then you can apply that at any moment and it becomes a little more natural that you can just go there you don’t even have to think about the things you’re doing. You eventually want to get to that hypnotic place where the music is taking you and if your technique level is high you can demonstrate that when you’re dancing.
It totally makes sense and so then in practices, maybe now maybe before, how are you developing that technique?
Through time. Through time, you really got to sit there and break stuff down you know. You know, foundation is always a funny word I mean everyone has their own kind of view on it too. If we have to speak in a timeline you know, we talk about how everything started on top then people started bringing things down to the floor and then the you know dynamic or gymnastic kind of feel got added to it you know. Breaking is very complex, so there’s all these things that we have to work on. And you can kind of like micromanage that stuff so you can say “okay I’m gonna work on kind of standing up to this music and I’m just gonna do that for as long as I can” and then you can say “alright I’m gonna transition to the floor” so I’m going to work on these drops I’m just gonna like stand up, dance, drop to the floor, get up, stand up, dance, drop to the floor, get up, and try to think of many different ways that I could do that. While you’re doing it you’re training yourself physically, but now I’m micromanaging the things that I’m doing so I can kind of focus on each aspect of the dance at a time you know. Sometimes I will do that but one element that doesn’t really get taken out of that is is I have to like throw it as if I’m really into the music. So you can get like real kind of you know, no disrespect, but it’s slightly nerdy I guess in a way where you’re just like they’re like alright hand here, foot here, do this here, and that’s the science of it and that’s dope you know. I think that’s a cool thing to do as well, but then there’s there’s a point where you have to just let that go and you throw it you know. “Don’t think, feel” like Bruce Lee says you know. That’s your moment where okay you’ve trained all this stuff but now put an emotion on that and move through it now without even having to think so hard about the technical aspect, let it become now second nature or something like that you know.
Totally becoming, free in a way. So when you’re judging, are these things that you look out for?
Yeah yeah, I try to see if people are tapped in like that you know. And if they’re not then I can you know, I know enough of the dance I feel cuz I study it all the time and I don’t ever stop like really practicing and are studying the dance, I then look at their technique you know. And what are they doing, do they have that down, I mean there’s so many ways you can approach this that I don’t don’t think one necessarily you know it’s better than the other either, I just see what people are bringing to the table. And especially when when I think about battling I think of it as war and there’s many ways you can win a war you know, it’s all about strategy. So you know, whatever people are bringing in that moment now I’ll never judge them just based off of that, but I’ll judge them in that moment only. And I’m looking at what they’re doing you know what are they bringing to the table. And it always is in comparison to the other person, it’s not just about them because they’re battling that person. Unless it’s like a showcase or something then I got to kind of like “all right well that was tight that wasn’t” you know, that’s a little bit different. But when you’re going up against someone, it’s you versus them, it’s not just you. So whatever you’re gonna pull out there depends on what that other person is also doing so you got a look at that too, that’s also a thing that judges you know, should be, I think really looking at.
Totally and now I’m gonna switch the roles here and put you in that position of the battler. Okay. And what are you… what’s going through your mind like before going into the battle when the music’s playing?
I used to, I guess you could say semi prepare for these things to where I’d be like “alright, I think I’m gonna do this, this, and this in this battle” you know but, I got to a point where I start I started letting that stuff go and I’ll let the music just kind of dictate what’s gonna happen. But then I also try to be as present as possible. So I really do look at what the other person is doing, it’s a little bit hard when you have these one round battles right and especially if you’re gonna go first, there’s nothing to answer, so you just got to kind of like set the bar. But being present and knowing that can make the decisions of what’s gonna happen for you, you know? So I just really try to be there, I really try to show up and say okay what’s happening in this moment and then I’ll make my decisions based on that and I think that’s just come through experience. Outside of the battle you just try to prepare to be ready for whatever those situations are gonna be. So as someone who battles, I just try to again go back home, micromanage my my you know everything, make sure I have certain bullets in the chamber and then I show up fully loaded and then I make my decisions based on what I’m seeing in front of me. Love it man, gonna quote you on that for sure.
Nice. These days, are you still battling a lot?
Yeah, I’m actually I’m leaving tomorrow to go to the Redbull BC One in Houston so they have a two-on-two battle that they’re doing now it’s a b-boy, b-girl, and popper battle so they’re basically inviting top eight bboys, bgirls, top eight poppers and then you get randomly paired up with someone and that’s your partner that you battle with. Wow that’s sick. Yeah so they’re gonna be playing like a mixture of music too so it’s a bit of an all styles type of feel but it’s just popping and breaking you know and you get paired up with a popper and then you go ahead and battle. So I’m invited to that which is dope, I’m really excited about that, and then the next day we have a little all-star team of our own but we’re gonna be doing an exhibition against the Redbull BC One all-stars the next day so it’s gonna be cool man I’m excited.
That’s going to be fire man. Yeah it’s gonna be cool man, I’m excited for that you know for sure. Yeah, i’m still battling man I do I do my thing here and there. I fully enjoy battles off of the stage you know, I still have just I guess this kind of like cypher mentality even though I do also love the competition energy, I think there’s something about it to that’s different like you really have to strategize a little bit differently than you would if you just met someone in the cypher you know. they’re – they’re kind of two different games so you have to like really really plan a little bit differently but it’s challenging for me so I’m trying to do that as long as I can.
Totally is there anything specific you’re doing to to prep for these battles are you kind of you kind of passed that now at this point.
I think just physically for me. I you know, I’m 38 now so the thing for me is to make sure my body’s just physically ready. So you know I fast you know that’s something I do diet wise and I do that all the time. You know I only eat 4 to 5 hours in a day, and I fast for the rest of the day and that’s been giving me the energy that I need and also just kind of helping me in terms of longevity-wise. What I’m putting into my body would be more like, that fluctuates because I don’t I don’t want to kind of stay on this stay same regimen with what I’m eating. So I’ll go through times where I’m eating just strictly meat diets and then sometimes I’ll go in and out of vegetables, sometimes I’ll mix it up. I just think it’s good for the system to do that and this is stuff that I’ve been experimenting just with my own body for like the past couple years. I really should be writing this stuff down because it is a bit of a science. Everything that I do, I approach as a science project or some type of thesis you know. what I mean so yeah I’m trying to learn as much about my own body as I do these things. But yeah, that’s that’s really something that I’ve been focusing on a lot. And yeah I go to the gym at least three to four times a week. You know, I kind of separate my muscle groups so I’m working on you know things that I feel are relative to what I’m doing in the movement of breaking, so core is the main thing that I focus on and then everything breaks down from there so if I need to build strength in my shoulders or my biceps I’m trying to really feel that out while I’m dancing, what am I feeling what do I need more strength in and I just try to work those groups as I’m feeling those things so things are constantly evolving and changing it all depends on how I feel right.
And Is that intermittent fasting that you’re doing?
Yeah, that’s the word for it. I’ll just straight up fast, like I do have 24-hour days you know and I that all depends men and and I I go I go with the feel, you know, if my body tells me that it just doesn’t want to eat and I just won’t eat. You know, and there’s time I just found myself going into that when you know it would be like 8 p.m. and I sitting there and like “oh dang I actually didn’t eat anything today”. You know and I’m like “cool”. Like I won’t force it like if I know ok I start eating at that at 1 o’clock you know I won’t just eat at 1 because I’m hungry, I might wait out a little bit or if I knew that I put some time and in the gym in the morning I know I might need to replenish my muscles a bit ok maybe I should eat something you know. But the less eating is actually starting to become something good for me. You know, I’ve been realizing certain habits culturally and just in general so I started cutting those things out. You know, ever since I really started traveling I started learning many different things man so that that really shaped my mind to start thinking deeper about what it is that I’m doing personally and how I’m kind of going about my business as as me you know and what I’m involved in. So like the food changes, my thought process changes, but all of that has been really beneficial man. The more things I question, the more I’m starting to learn that what I’m doing sometimes it’s not always right and I have to experiment to find the things that are right so that’s been like my journey.
Wow OK, damn so could you go into maybe a little more detail about that, like I know you’re talking about how your diets of echt in other areas of your life and the way you’re thinking energy levels, could you just go into a little bit more details on maybe some of the specifics.
Focus. You know? That’s it, it’s changed my focus in my brain. You know I’ve realized that when I ate, I would get tired or my brain which you know slowed down you don’t really know this until you start to feel the opposite of that. You know you you really have to go to the extreme, well I do I’m an extremist that’s what I do in order for me to learn I’ll take things to the extreme and I’ll be like oh okay. And you realize everything is a balance you just have to know how to balance it for yourself you know but what I’ve learned is that when I started fasting and when I cut out food altogether man my body was going through all these changes and it felt crazy for a while but then I also realized I said “okay this I needed to feel this”. I need to feel what that felt like. My focus in my brain right now is so, what seems to me at the moment crystal clear, you know. I make better decisions, I can do multiple things, my memory just doesn’t seem to slip you know, I’m pretty on point you know. And I like that feeling. And it started actually first when I cut out alcohol altogether you know. I’ll have a drink here and there I can, I’m not a tight about things necessarily, but I just know when I need to get on point you know so when I started cutting out alcohol that’s probably one of the first things I’ve realized I said “well I could really like focus also I can almost move things with my brain” if I could. I believe that that’s something that’s possible too you know. If we really like become a little more in tune with ourselves we can probably do all types of stuff we never thought we could do and it’s those types of feelings, and then when you start becoming successful at the things that you focus on, you go dang now what else is possible, you know? So I’m learning this balance this back and forth conversation between my brain and my body and how powerful that is, and I think that’s just where I’m at right now with that kind of stuff.
Dope man. All right like this is getting pretty heavy, like how does this, do you get this like feeling of focus during battling and during your your breaking or when you’re listening to the music?
Yes and that’s what I mean by being tapped in or tuned in. You know you know there is this element of freedom that we speak about right, this is like I call it the ‘hypnotic’. That’s a very common term for musicians and stuff, but you get into this thing where it’s almost like you know something else is controlling you and you’re just going about your thing. It’s an interesting place or interesting space even because it’s like you’re totally focused but at the same time it’s almost like having an out-of-body experience where you’re looking at yourself like “dang am I doing that?” it’s this, it’s both you know. And I find that to be a place that I try to get to every time I step out you know into the cypher or on stage or whatever it is if I’m about to dance I try to reach whatever that is you know. And and I don’t make it there every time, I really don’t and sometimes it’s a very short moment and the time that I’m dancing, but that’s my ultimate goal I always try to get to that point where I’m just moving through. It’s like in the matrix you know what I’m saying when like you know when neo is there and the bullets are coming towards him and he’s just like moving in to the side and he could see everything that’s happening but yet it seems like there’s this like complete blurred moment time is stopping but yet it’s still moving… that’s what it’s like to me you know and I try to get that every time. Yes okay. This is I love this. One thing I love about these interviews is is hearing like people like you speak about these sort of things I just want to get out and practice right now and try to feel it. And then do you try to I guess you try to reach these kind of places in your practices to like you you can find it better when you’re practicing by yourself or or in a group or like sharing energy with a with a group of people. I think all of it. you know I I kind of just I feel like I need all of that to continue you know. I need my space my time and then I need to build with others, I think it’s all relative.
Perfect man, this is an awesome interview I need to listen to this thing like 10 times right now just digest everything. Thanks man. Yeah before we wrap up here, do you have a some parting advice maybe for a bboy who’s you know a couple years in and still kind of struggling to to find their own their own way?
Keep going. You know, I think we put a time limit on ourselves all the time and that’s just that’s something we put in our heads. There is no rush to get anywhere and at the same time there’s no time so if that’s the case then I mean I don’t know what people are really worried about. I mean if you enjoy it you know, you’ll spend as much time as you need you know to get to where you you want to get to, but let it happen. You know let let things take their time however long they take. And enjoy the process. Like to me processes everything like, I enjoy products but at the same time when you learn about people’s processes it’s way more deeper than that. You know you start to realize and understand the product a bit more when you understand the process. So you know go through that process, enjoy that whole time, because it’s great and and learn about yourself so you know don’t don’t limit yourself in time. Just keep going, and stay at it because you know you’re you’re always gonna go through ups and downs so if you’re in the long down period just know you’ll get out of it at some point. But you know when you trust the process of it you’ll you’ll know that you’re in that position for a reason you’re gonna learn something and you’re gonna pull yourself out of it and once you figure out what that is then you go “oh dang” and then you’re like “okay nice, nice, nice,” now you can move on to the next thing so yeah just take your time that’s that’s my advice to any of these guys.
Alright perfect man I know you got a lot going on, is there anything specific that you want people to check out on your on your website or Instagram?
Just keep watching man, I got a lot of interesting projects coming up. I got a lot of cool music things that will be I’ll be posting up within the next year. Yeah and more visual, is just more more art, more stuff to to check out and hopefully inspire some people. And then yeah, when it comes to the education aspect, when I start really moving forward with those things people will see it through there, I’ll see you to the Instagram and the website, and and there’ll always be information up there about how you can get involved too.
Dope and your instagram’s ynotism? Yeah, yes correct. And ynotism.com? Yep that’s the website. Perfect man. Can you, could you give us a maybe a sneak peek maybe something specific that’s coming up in the pipeline, a project of yours? Okay let me see… what can I put out there. I know most recently you had the, it was a table right? Oh the chair designed? The chair, yeah with the ‘S’ that was dope. Yeah yeah, I have some other stuff coming up soon. I’m going through a little wave of sculpture first before I get back to like anything that has some type of function. Right now it’s just aesthetics that I’m building so I have some sculptures that I’ll be posting pretty soon that would be interesting to check out and and currently I’m just working on a music project I’m working on an EP with Bahamadia and I’ll be putting that up hopefully towards the end of the summer. So any people are fans of some interesting hip-hop and fans of Bahamadia or myself, they can check that out that’s gonna be really nice man that’s gonna be an EP hopefully out by I don’t even know. We just we don’t we don’t set dates you know, we just go into we’re like “Okay it’s done” you know but that’s what I’m currently working on now so be on the lookout for that. Yo for sure! Alright guys be sure to follow YNOT at his Instagram, peep his website. Make sure to keep up to date for when the EP drops and whatever else he’s got going on, I know he’s always got something on the go. YUP.
All right guys, you’ve been hanging out with why not and your host Wolvi head over to inthecypher.com search YNOT in the search bar and his show notes page will come up with everything we’ve been talking about today. Just want to say thank you to YNOT, this was such a legendary interview and I’m so stoked to be able to get to talk to you. Your message, yeah for sure, your message will reach and inspire many b-boys and b-girls around the world so today we got to learn from one of the greatest. Hope to have you back on the show but until then we’ll catch you IN THE CYPHER. Thanks man I appreciate it.
And there you have it guys, the legendary YNOT, vice-president at legendary Rock Steady Crew. True honor to have him be our first guest on the show, the man is a true professional on and off the dance floor. Appreciate a bro. Be sure to check out his website YNOTISM.com and his Instagram @YNOTISM. This man does not stop and has always got something on the go so be sure to check out his Instagram, stay tuned for what he’s putting out next. All these links and more will be on the show notes page of our website inthecypher.com, be sure to check it out, all the links will be there. And while you’re checking out YNOT’s Instagram be sure to follow us on there too, @_inthecypher.
And do you have a b-boy or b-girl you want me to interview? Well you’re in luck! If you let me know who you want on the show and you have a specific question or topic you want them to speak on, then comment on any YNOT photo on our Instagram page and I’ll do my best to get your question answered on the show and give you a shout out while I’m at it. Guys thank you so much for listening to the very first episode of the show. Show your support by sharing the episode with your friends if you think YNOT can teach them a thing or two. All right, guys until then I’ll catch you guys IN THE CYPHER. Take care, peace!